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Rick (gsxr1100@ptw.com)
Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:24:23 -0700

> Hello  everyone, I also think that people are also missing a very
> way of turbocharging, last season, I bought a new Mr. Turbo for my old
> 1428cc KZ1000.  In the newer kits, they will use one of the new Mikuni HSR
> "Harley" carbs to draw through instead of a S&S carb.  I was not looking
> forward to fouling plugs and general lag, setup pain associated with the
> draw-through systems, but the HSR worked excellent, not one bad plug all
> year, I did burn-up 2 sets of valve seals though in about  1600 miles.
> > Subject: Re: [turbobike] carburation vs fuel injection
> >
> > >Hi Christer, I hope you are enjoying this as much as I am! hehe...
>  >>To make full use of a EFI setup you would really need to know what You
> are
> > >doing
> > >and use all types of sensors, otherwise it will be more primitive than
> any
> > >carb setup.
> > >and carbs aren't primitive? Only been around 100 years...
> > >>I know what a MAP sensor is ,I work with dynoing engines at a engine
> > >research center.
> > >Then you should have kicked my ass on this discussion by now - I'm an
> > >amateur!
> > >>Yes some sofisticated EFI“s can adjust for different flows but then
> > >would need
> > >a map sensor in every inlet rubber, on a carb setup the stronger signal
> > will just pull
> > >more fuel in that carb, nothing of major concern but nevertheless.
> > >No, you could just adjust the fueling/ignition on each cylinder against
> > >brake dyno.
> > >>Yes Your van have EFI (to clear emission laws) but a Yamaha R1
> > >(who makes 150hp/litre) doesent , understand My point?
> > >Yes, now I do.
>  >>You may be able to buy an ECU for £650 and injectors for £15 ,but I
> > >that John Doe can walk into an speed shop and get a nice EFI setup for
> that
> > >amount.
> > >I AM that John Doe! No, I didn't walk into a speed shop, i just hunted
> > >around.
> > >>Besides you need alot more than ECU and injectors, throttle bodies and
> > >box full of
> > >sensors ,wires ,not the cheapest stuff around. The carbs are already on
> the
> > >bike
> > >True, but you are coming back to cost, the one point I concede.
>  >>How fast do I wanna go? well the old setup easily made 200mph and the
> > >one
> > >is more powerful. As I said in an earlier mail Mark Moisan out of texas
> > made 429hp
> > >...and Terry Kizer made 494 on his EFI ZX11...
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >Lorcan